I sent someone the URL for the recording of a free class I just gave. Since they have an edufire account I believe they can access it.

Is there a way I can share the free classes with the public?

Is there a way I can sell the paid-for classes? Maybe I could download a SWF or such and then market it. Or if there was a link that would ask for CC/paypal then both edufire and I could benefit from the revenue stream.

I think when they go to view it they will not be allowed.unless they were registered for the class even if they have the url.
I think if you record your paid classes on your own they are your content. I don’t think you can use the edufire recording and sell it…. That’s one for the edufire team to address. Good question though. I am considering recording the material separate and creating a product from that. I don’t think that is a legal issue. this might be a good discussion to have. The wheels are always turning. (grin)

I don’t know what side the authentication is done on, so I shared this with one person so see if she can get in. If she can then I will share it elsewhere and just say it takes a free registration.

I don’t know if there would be a legal issue since I haven’t read the TOS recently. I don’t think there would be a ethical concern with material already offered for free. Selling material shouldn’t be a problem if edufire gets its share of the booty, either through increased exposure or taking a piece of the price (15%?). I prefer the 2nd option since we could still use edufire’s ecommerce infrastructure. I’m happy to pay 15% for that.

What software are you planning to use? Will you be testing this out soon?

I think both edufire and the tutors could benefit from the exposure and the additional revenue stream.

This site called vidschool has launched recently – they have facilities for selling video lessons. I met one of the founders on Twitter and I suggested that they might be able to hook up with eduFire so we could sell classes recorded here through their site …. they were launching in San Fran …. don’t know if anything came of the idea ….

Thank you. I will explore it.

I’ve asked about it, and it seems there is no solution for EduFire yet. Now, will there be? That is a very good question….

@Dave – I have experimented with setting up an auxilliary camera just behind the web cam and editing using imovie and cutting in the powerpoint with voiceover. It still needs a little tweaking but it turned out pretty good. Gonna try it again when I do my rehersal for the class.
I seem to record everything… sometimes i get pretty good footage out of it and often even if the video is not so hot the audio is usable. I do find that if I am going to use just the audio it works best to edit and render it as a video first and then reformat it to an mp3 file.
The rehersal for the powerpoint makes a passable teaching tool alone… your little face won’t be on it unless you do some basic editing but it is useful and saleable.
Hope this helps.
Alaia

Interesting discussion guys. We have spoken before about the idea of giving teachers the tools to sell their recordings. I’ll discuss it with the team. Obviously such a task is not a ‘quick’ thing to setup but nonetheless a great idea is a great idea!

Hey guys. The short of this is that this is definitely something on our road map. The way things work right now, we don’t “own” the videos but have what is know as a perpetual license to distribute them. This is similar to how YouTube works. At some point in the future we are planning to give teachers the ability to sell recordings of their classes but we don’t have any immediate timeline for that. When that happens we will be offering a generous revenue share to the teachers of course. :)

We’re really excited about a lot of this stuff but also don’t want to over-promise on when this stuff is coming. In the meantime, we’d love to hear any thoughts you on this or any ideas. As always, your feedback is hugely important to us!

I am just a bit surprised that eduFire have a ‘perpetual licence to distribute’ recorded lessons and will be giving a share to the tutor …. I would have expected the tutor to own the material and be giving eduFire a share for helping to distribute it, but I obviously have not read the small print …. I would also have thought that the license for distribution would need permission from anyone who participated actively in the lesson – on chat or voice or camera …. again perhaps I need to look for the details of the terms and conditions somewhere …. er where?

Here is the exact wording from the TOS

“13. Licensing Submitted Content

While you retain any and all rights in any Submitted Content you make available through the Service, we need certain rights to the Submitted Content and in that Submitted Content in order to make the Service available. By uploading or otherwise making available any Submitted Content, you automatically grant and/or warrant that the owner has granted to us a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, world-wide, irrevocable, transferable license with the right to grant sublicenses through multiple tiers of sublicenses to publicly display, publicly perform, distribute, store, transcode, syndicate, broadcast, reproduce, edit, modify, create derivative works, and otherwise use and reuse your Submitted Content (or any portion or derivative works thereof) in any manner, in any medium, for any purpose to the extent required to modify or deliver the Services. This license enables us to provide the Services and provide access to the Submitted Content and is not intended to otherwise limit your rights to the Content.

You hereby waive any and all rights of privacy, publicity, or any other rights of a similar nature in connection with the exploitation of the Submitted Content, or any portion thereof, or of your name, personality, likeness, image or voice in connection with the Submitted Content, or any advertising or publicity relating thereto."

Thanks for finding that Alaia – I have also now found ‘You agree that we may record all or any part of any Tutoring Sessions (including voice chat communications) for quality control, redistribution, advertising and other purposes. We reserve the right to review the Tutoring Sessions for any purpose.’ …. I guess students who are recorded are bound by this too …. ….. it might make me a bit wary of submitting content I might later want to sell myself, or of recording classes containing such content …. meanwhile, for anyone who wants to read the whole thing, here it is….
Can I just ask if anyone knows whether all sessions are in fact recorded or only those where the tutor specifically selects for them to be recorded?

Ok, so it retains a non-exclusive right to material uploaded. So I don’t lose my ability to use what I created elsewhere, but what about material created on edufire? Technically, I am uploading my audio/video content as prompted by my students audio/video.

But I still think it is better if we keep all material on edufire so that edufire shares in the marketing benefits.

I did verify that people who were not participantss can’t get in. I suppose for access to recordings of free classes I could give out my username along with the URL.

@Mair, I don’t think you lose your right to sell uploaded material. But there is the problem that they may decide to give it out for free or give it to someone who gives it away. New IP ideas are that it will increase the demand for your product, but old-school IP says that you will now be competing with free material so it would reduce the demand.

@Dave I suppose I was thinking that eduFire could sell uploaded material or recordings in competition with tutors, which I think the terms and conditions would allow them to do …. however, I am worrying about nothing until I have a product I want to sell and until eduFire get into selling material …. for now it is probably best to just concentrate on teaching :-)