Superpass: should I accept it?

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Joe Clinkenbeard Joe Clinkenb... ** 81 post(s)

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Hello,

I’m relatively new to eduFire (only 2 sessions in at this point), and I have some questions about Superpass (which hopefully have not been addressed elsewhere).

First off, what’s the best strategy for offering classes with Superpass “enabled”? I have seen some classes list $5 per person registration with Superpass (closer to the RPS of $3.80), and others $15 with Superpass. In the opinion or experience of anyone, is it a better idea to offer Superpass along with a rate that is roughly equivalent? Does it even matter?

Secondly (and perhaps more importantly), is accepting Superpass even worth it? Of course, allowing it is completely optional; however, are there consequences (in terms of enrollment volume) for not offering it?

Last, looking at what seems to be a low RPS, couldn’t it be (mathematically speaking) in some way due to an overabundance of Superpass-enabled classes? I know there has also been a lot of discussion about certain teachers taking advantage of Superpass. Does anyone have any updates on what is being done currently to rectify those concerns?

Again, I’m sorry if any of these issues is being treated elsewhere. Thanks to anyone who can shed a little light for this neophyte searching his way through the dark…

Joe

 
Mair Lloyd Mair Lloyd Ambassador *** 1,100 post(s)

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Joe, I am no expert on this either, but I think Superpass is worth enabling for the type of class where you can cope with a large number of attendees. Your class is then effectively ‘free’ to Superpass holders so, as long as your topic has mass appeal, you should be able to bring in enough students to generate a reasonable income for your time. Minority subjects, or subjects with a low restriction on class size, are not going to work so well. However, having said that, it is really quite difficult to find any volume of students willing to pay for classes at all. It is a long and patient job to build up a number of students who know the value of your teaching and who will attend your classes regularly. The problem was worse before we had Superpass – then students mostly attended and wanted free classes, so I think that Superpass has definitely been a step in the right direction. Best of luck with it all.

 
Ron Smith Ron Smith Ambassador *** 523 post(s)

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I am making quite a bit for my SuperPass classes…. but there is a strategy to marketing for SuperPass that I have developed. It works for me, and this is what I cover in my marketing classes here on eduFire.

 
Alaia Leighland Alaia Leighland *** 509 post(s)

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At the moment I am enjoying being on edufire and creating the content that this platform provides a space for. I still have other sources of income… I don’t think anyone is going to make a killing here at first so in answer to your question… I think superpass is well worth it. I feel that I will attract people who will want to be a part of other things that i do and offer and that it is like advertising that i am getting paid to do. I give something of myself and my knowledge with a superpass class or group and in return i get exposure, potential clients and an incentive to develop more material… It’s a win all around… so Yes I think its worht it and then some!

 
Claire Lim Claire Lim Ambassador ** 358 post(s)

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Good morning everyone! This is a good topic.
Superpass classes have been a great incentive for me to develop teaching resources just like what Alaia has mentioned. In my case, I am selective of the classes I offer on superpass even though I have a lot of materials on hand. Superpass classes will help in marketing yourself to the students but if you set up too many of the classes, it will not be very effective. (You have to master the art of fishing) This is just my experience. I am sure other tutors have different opinion.:)

 
Jeremiah Bourque Jeremiah Bou... ** 492 post(s)

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I haven’t had great success with SuperPass, but I’m asking myself two fundamental questions.

- Is what I’m teaching popular enough to get lots of SuperPass students? (No.)
- Is my outside-of-EduFire advertising sufficient? (No.)

Now that I’ve put some annoyances aside and can devote my full attention to developing more material, I’m going to at least try to push SuperPass classes more but… on the other hand, I may well take the non-populist stuff I have been doing and make ebooks out of them. I certainly can give away stronger free samples now that I have ‘the big picture’ in clearer relief.

Having said that, I’m going to look at teaching entry level Japanese and seeing if I can drum up more business between that and my English stuff…. provided I make it sufficiently populist. We’ll see, but I’m definitely not satisfied with the notion that I’m just going to take more students from other eduFire tutors and not haul people in from the wider Internet; I don’t think that’s a reliable method.

 
Joe Clinkenbeard Joe Clinkenb... ** 81 post(s)

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Thanks, everyone, for addressing my questions! I really appreciate your helpfulness.

 
Alaia Leighland Alaia Leighland *** 509 post(s)

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Edufire and tutoring here is as business and when I look at it as if it is a business i am then looking at superpass like getting paid to advertise. Teaching a superpass class in and of it self is not the focus of what i am doing it is the means to the end of creating something larger. If it is looked at as the end in and of itself then it will have to attract a large number of people to be profitable. I guess it depends on what you want from it.

 
Kamal Das (tutor4math) Kamal Das (t... ** 192 post(s)

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Also Joe, on the question of low RPS, considering this situation
A students attends only 2 classes a week.
=> He attends 8 classes a month.
=> Cost to Edufire = 8* 3.8 =$30.4
Edufire gets $29 and they’ll lose money even if a student attends only 2 classes a week; even if all their storage, hosting cost etc were nil.

Honestly I’m surprised the RPS is as HIGH as it is currently. Its pretty low cost for the students; not so for edufire; and depending on how many students your class attracts- good/ not so good for you.

Its a good price point to attract students (less than $1/ day) to the platform. How many we can convert to OUR students depends on us.

I’d say one may try some superclass/ free classes initially to attract some students. Only you feel you can attract them at higher price points one should charge higher. one can charge as high as someone is willing to pay …Its a free economy after all :)

PS- I don’t typically offer superpass classes; and get a decent (not overwhelming) number of students


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