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David Mac
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I saw a video on YouTube posted by a fluent Japanese speaker (native NZ) living in Japan who said that Japanese men and women speak differently from each other and that you should always have a tutor who’s the same sex as you to pick up the correct pronunciation. Can anyone confirm this? |
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I don’t know a lot of Japanese, but…. YES YES YES. |
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Yeah, I agree witht he person above. If you dont have a same sex tutor, you always google it and see what you come up with, but guys and girls do speak differently in Japan…….. |
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It’s true that there are different styles of speech for male and female, as in many other languages. As for only learning from a tutor of the same sex…. now that sounds a little odd. As long as you are aware of the differences, you can learn to speak in the way you like. Polite speech in Japanese doesn’t change a great deal between sexes though. |
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agreed, women I have noticed, due tend to speak differently and add small things…. like my friend from Japan tells me, its “girlie talk”. |
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Yes, there are more feminine and masculine ways of expression, and you may raise some Japanese eye-brows (if you can notice them ;) if you are ambivalent to it, but as Michael says, polite speech is mostly neutral, it’s when you get really formal or informal/friendly that these gender-tints come out. If you are learning from a trained tutor, (s)he should be able to make sure you are speaking gender-appropriately. |
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I several times wondered if I needed a male teacher/tutor. I still haven’t answered my question. I try to expose myself to both, but I know for a fact I’ve said many things only women say. I wonder if Japanese teachers change the way they speak depending on the student. For instance, would a female use less of these female language traits if speaking to a male student? |
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Well, with the Japanese language and gender (to my knowledge of Japanese), it is mostly with slang and the word “I” where gender is used |
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I think everyone’s basically answered this question well. I once heard a story from a friend who met a non-Japanese guy on a flight, and apparently his Japanese was really good, but he spoke like a woman, because he had learned it mostly from his Japanese wife. You really don’t need to go to the trouble of being tutored by somebody of the same sex, because the differences between men’s and women’s Japanese aren’t so vast…. in addition, most of them come up, as everyone mentioned, in more casual speech. One of the best ways to get used to the differences, rather than studying them, is to watch lots of Japanese movies and TV (which you can definitely do via YouTube along with many other online services for free). You will begin to notice that – in general – girls speak very “girly”-ly, and men often speak in an almost seemingly contrived masculine fashion. Interestingly, I’ve also heard that the way men in Tokyo speak is considered by people from other areas (both men and women) to be relatively girly. You learn a language through imitation. Watch TV shows with actors/actresses whose Japanese you enjoy, and you will probably begin to pick it up! |
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Great. I’m basically doomed to speak in a girlish way. |
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Basically, if you use the polite form, There is no defferences between men and women except call your self as boku or watashi ( well actually for the adults, it is better to say watashi /watakushi for both sex) . I don’t think it doesn’t matter if you learn Japanese from same sex or not at least the tutor know the defferences and also as you may know, written or polite form and spoken Japanese are deffernt. For casual saying, I hope all the totur understand which can be used for both sexes, ( most of them are though ) actually. When it comes to very broken /spoken Japanese, you can add something that you can tell you are male or female on the sentence ,or some of the words are for the femal or mans. |
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Don’t worry, Alexandre. Your English is not girlish. As for the tale of the non-Japanese man with the girly Japanese, I reckon that’s a rare case…. once you get to mid-level and advanced Japanese, it’s very easy to differentiate between very feminine and masculine words. So my advice to beginners is not to worry about it – I agree with Hiromi that any Japanese tutor will (should) know the difference and won’t be teaching men ladies Japanese! |
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I sooo hope you meant “Your Japanese is not girlish”….. ;) |
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I was hoping that, too! :) |
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(笑)Haha, yeah, that’s what I meant! |
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Alexandre, |
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By any chance…. was that video by a man named Koichi? |
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